VA Home Loan: Can I get a second mortgage when first is underwater?

Saturday, 25. June 2011

We have negative equity in our current home, so we aren’t able to sell it anytime soon. We are trying to rent our current home in hopes of purchasing a new home (with better terms) closer to work (I have an hour and a half commute one way!).

Here’s the problem: 30% negative equity, so I don’t think we qualify for another mortgage, especially since the second mortgage, when combined with the first, would consume 65% of total monthly income.

No car payments, no credit card payments, nothing…flawless credit 800+ beacon.

Could we, therefore, qualify for a VA loan (I have the pre-qualification from VA already) for a new primary residence? I think it’s an FHA requirement (the 30% equity or have a rental agreement and a bunch of other documentation) that prohibits another loan when the first is an underwater rental, but wondering if the VA loan route is an exemption to this policy.

In short, would a mortgage company be able to make a VA loan happen (though not required, I would also put 10%+ down and find a house being sold under appraisal), although I currently have another mortgage underwater and the two mortgages together would put me at 65% of gross monthly income?


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